Cold Opening

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In the first episode under the new title, a cold opening is attempted. 

With help from a famous voice out of the past, the Gang of Four tries to get in synch, but the results are not quite perfect. John Heintz explains about the new title and what it means (and what it does not mean). 

That segues into a discussion of the value of “opinion” v. the value of “facts.”  That discussion segues into a broader discussion regarding trust in government in general and the performance of government during the current crisis in particular. 

That in turn becomes a Trump discussion (as all discussions seem to have become over the past four years). New ground is broken when the possibility is raised of a Trump supporter appearing on the podcast. (If there are any Trump supporters listening, get in touch. This could be your chance for instant fame.) 

Jim Gentile introduces some factual comparisons of the current epidemic to the influenza outbreak of 1918 and John actually praises him and Jim becomes even more insufferable.

Peggy and Shelly provide some interesting personal updates regarding their work and all four make recommendations.

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